Why Depressed Men Leave – 2

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Some of the comments on the last post in this series hit hard on two issues. First is the question of personal choice: is a man supposed to escape responsibility for destructive behavior by attributing everything to depression? The answer is no! Depression is never an excuse for inflicting pain and loss, breaking up families, violent rages or destructive behavior of any kind. The other compelling question that is asked over and over again, often in desperation, is: What can I do?

I’ll try here to deal with both of these issues here rather than put them off to the end of the series, as I had originally planned.

1. Responsibility

Whatever might roil me internally in the midst of this condition doesn’t change or lessen my responsibility for the harm my behavior is causing. My wife hasn’t kept silent but has confronted me whenever she needed to about what I was doing to our relationship and everything I was putting at risk. Hearing that from her was not enough by itself to shatter the power of denial, but it was essential to be confronted with the facts of her feelings. That truth needs to get through the layers of depressive self-absorption and isolation in order for recovery to begin, but it is knowledge that has to be put to use by me. I had to decide to take responsibility for my own recovery.

I could not make that inner choice, however, so long as I was looking for an external cure. The last post tried to bring out the twisted thinking, rooted in denial, that led me for a time to look to something or someone other than me as the cause of an inner despair and emptiness. Convinced that the cause was external, it made sense in this phony logic to look for a cure by changing location, jobs, family. That would be the path to fulfillment. Fortunately, I could never fully believe that was true.

I thought I was doing everything I could to get better by using a series of treatments. I took medication, spent countless hours with therapists of many persuasions to undo patterns from the past, got counseling with my wife, changed diet, ran a lot, meditated, tried to change destructive ways of thinking, and more than that. The problem was that I kept waiting for one of these or all in combination to do the trick and rid me of this destructive condition.

None of them ever seemed to work for long because in a sense I was still looking for an external cure. Only when I had to deal with cancer did it dawn on me that I had to take charge of my treatment in a way I hadn’t done before. To doctors I was a statistic with a certain probability of survival after five years, ten years. I had to make an inner determination not only to use the available tools but to strengthen my will to change and approach that illness with the spirit of an activist. I wasn’t going to let it kill me. It might come to that but not without a hell of a fight from me.

That’s what has to happen in depression. As with substance abuse and addiction, no one and no thing could do it for me. Recovery had to begin with my inner belief that I could make it happen.

2. What Can a Woman Do?

I can speak only from my experience so there’s an obvious limit to how much I can say about what a woman can do. But I’ve talk to my wife – her medium is visual not verbal – and can summarize what she has done.

First, here’s part of what I said in the Longing to Leave series over a year ago.

I’m not big on offering advice, but the potentially devastating impacts of depressed people on those closest to them leads me to go a bit beyond just reflecting on what I’ve been through.

If you’re trying to deal with the sudden transformation of an intimate partner, get help, starting with friends and family. You’ve likely felt such a deep assault and wound that it would be easy to get lost in the sheer humiliation, hurt and anger of the experience, searching for what you’ve done wrong, what you could do or say to set things right. That’s a trap … Those closest to you and your partner have doubtless noticed something strange and may have been hurt as well by new behavior. That will remind you that you’re not alone in this.

And remember that you can’t cure someone else with your words and love. They only backfire. At most, you can help your partner gradually gain awareness. …

What my wife did was to confront me with I was doing to her and demand I get treatment before I destroyed our marriage. Having dealt with the danger of alcoholism in her own experience, she knew about codependence. She knew she couldn’t take care of me by blaming herself and putting my feelings ahead of her own. I got that message loud and clear.

She has told me that at first she experienced only the anger and the hurt it caused. We did couples therapy in two separate periods. Both helped. The second led to a breakthrough that re-established the basic bond between us. Slowly but surely, though, I took many steps backward.

As time went on, she felt the impact of other types of behavior besides anger and aggressive emotional abuse, but they all had the same effect – she was cut off from the love and support she needed from the relationship. That was devastating, and she had to deal with it over and over again. As she tells it. the most important realization for her was that all this grew out of severe and chronic depression and that it was unrelated to anything she had done. She knew I was the one who had to turn it around.

She was sympathetic and loving but repeatedly forced me to see the horrible impact of my behavior on her. No matter the cause, that was real, and it had to stop. And I had better do something about it if anything was to be salvaged.

That was what she could do at the time – be honest with me and try to take care of herself.

Our experience doesn’t cover everything, of course, but this is what we can offer. I hope you can feel free to talk here about what you feel you can do – or have already done – to deal with a depressed partner.

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Related posts:

  1. Why Depressed Men Leave – 1
  2. The Longing to Leave – 2
  3. Why Depressed Men Leave – 3
  4. The Longing to Leave – 1
  5. Talking to Depression – 2

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13 Comments to “Why Depressed Men Leave – 2”

1. Posted by Evan, February 21st, 2009 at 9:06 pm

Thanks for a very honest and personal post.

Thankfully my partner who battles depression is very aware of the impact of their behaviour, when going through a depressed period.

2. Posted by john, February 23rd, 2009 at 11:22 am

Evan – Thank you for your comment. I’m glad the relationship works well. There are so many moving disaster stories!

My best to you — John

3. Posted by JS, February 23rd, 2009 at 11:32 am

This post so eloquently captures the struggles that so many couples endure. I also just want to point out that the feelings of anger, hurt and sometimes guilt and responsibility of a wife whose husband is depressed can also be present in other relationships. I can say from personal experience that immediate family members such as siblings and parents of someone with depression go through the same emotions of anger and realization that you are not the cause and cannot be the cure. Thank you for your honest explanation which I find so easy to relate to.

4. Posted by john, February 23rd, 2009 at 8:57 pm

JS -

Thank you so much for this comment. It means a lot to hear that you can relate to the post – though it’s too bad we have to go through these experiences.

I’m glad you dropped by — John

5. Posted by brandy, February 3rd, 2010 at 9:46 pm

I am going through this right now. Your wife’s words…what you wrote…that the depression is cutting her off from the love and support she needs from the relationship. I have felt this too. It’s a strain. He needs my support, and he gives some some times. But I don’t feel fully supported and it hurts to have him gone emotionally and physically.

6. Posted by Tanya, February 6th, 2010 at 7:44 pm

My partner told me 12 months ago he was clinically depressed i told him to promise to get help and we will work through this … he didnt and now 12 months later he has walked out and told me he doesnt think our relationship can be fixed.. He has blamed everything from the kids to me to his job to the town we live in… I havent seen him for 2 weeks i dont know what to do ?

7. Posted by john, February 7th, 2010 at 11:17 pm

Hi, brandy -

I’m sorry this is all happening to you. I hope it will be possible for you to have a talk with him, if you haven’t already, so that he understands what you’re going through, that you have limits and have to take care of yourself. He can turn things around if he makes a commitment to work on recovery by getting (additional?) help but also assuming an active role in treatment. I often fell into the trap of waiting for a medication to get rid of depression, and it’s not that simple for someone who’s struggled with it for a long time.

My best to you -

John

8. Posted by john, February 7th, 2010 at 11:31 pm

Hi, Tanya -

That’s a sad but familiar story, and I’m sorry it’s turned out this way. What he’s done is so predictable, but of course that doesn’t make it any less terrible for you. At this point, there aren’t so many things you can do, but one would be to communicate honestly what you feel – whatever that is. My wife made it clear that I had to get serious about treatment, and that worked since I didn’t really want to walk out the door or lose my family. But your partner hasn’t been able to look inward and drop the blaming as an explanation for what he’s going through. Until he can recognize his problem, it might not be possible to get through to him at all. He’s the only one who can begin to change – no one can do it for him. He should know that if he can get real and stop blaming you and everyone else that you want to make the relationship work again.

I so hope he can see a little light soon.

Thanks for telling this here -

John

9. Posted by liz, February 9th, 2010 at 11:19 am

John…what happens when its more than depression and the person is also dealing with BiPolar 2 and/or Borderline Personality Disorder? It seems like the person has no choice but to rely on medication as its critical to maintaining a sense of normalcy. You talk about medication being just one element of recovery but in these more severe cases, its vital in addition to counseling and maintaing a low stress, healthy lifestyle. It’s bad enough when it’s depression on its own but coupled with other forms of mental illness and the devastation to the person and their loved ones can be catastrophic. I know as I’m living thru it now with my ex-partner. At first, it was just depression and now he has been diagnoes with bipolar tendencies. Emotional withdrawal, abandonment…then to have him come back to our relationship (not completely) and then for him to pull back again. A rollercoaster ride that I can’t take any more. I love him more than anything but it’s difficult to see where the depression/bp ends and the real man begins. I know exactly how Tanya, Brandy and every other partner of someone with mental illness feels. Its just as tragic for both.

10. Posted by john, February 9th, 2010 at 10:45 pm

Hi, Liz -

You’re completely right about medication, and I don’t think I’ve suggested it isn’t important. It was never enough by itself for me, but that was my experience with depression over a very long period of my life. And I still take medication while doing “talk” therapy, and trying to lead a healthier, far less stressful life. Cognitive therapy and meditation have also been helpful – the list of things I’ve done is a long one, and they’ve all helped me in some way. The key for me was realizing that I had to think of treatment in a holistic way and not imagine myself as a passive subject waiting for a packaged cure to come along. Nothing worked until I changed my thinking about the process. But that was my struggle, and no two people are alike. Medication has been a life-saver, quite literally, for many people I know with depression and/or bipolar. The role of medication – when I finally found a combination that helped – was to strengthen me enough that I could finally pull all the treatments together and make progress toward real recovery.

I put my wife through just the rollercoaster experience you describe – . The only thing she could do was confront me with the suffering I was inflicting on her and tell me she couldn’t take any more. So long as depression dominated me she couldn’t rely on me emotionally at all. It took years of struggle to change that.

I hope your partner can make enough progress to have a stable relationship with you once again.

John

11. Posted by liz, February 10th, 2010 at 11:28 am

Thanks John–your blog has been instrumental in my understanding of what my ex-partner is going thru. I don’t know if we will ever get back together. I can’t hold onto that thought any longer and it makes me so sad. I have communicated every single feeling I have felt with him and what it has done is allowed me to hold on but in the end, it hasn’t changed the reality of our situation. He suffers from a major illness and, as a result, needs to take care of himself first and has no room for a loving, supportive relationship even though I told him how much I would support him thru all of the ups and downs he will be experiencing. He says he loves me but it doesn’t mean anything. Now I need to think of myself first…I’m very nervous that I let too much time slip by. Life is too short. He is a beautiful soul and I would have loved to spend my life with him but I’m tired of fighting. I remember when I first started communicating thru this blog about 7 months ago, you mentioned that I would have to determine how much I can take take and create boundaries. I really didn’t understand that until recently. It was something I couldn’t relate to because I didn’t truly understand how dark things could get. Now I do.I feel it in my bones. In my soul. I’m at my limit. He has rejected me while loving me time and time again. I can’t do it anymore so I guess I have to be done for my own mental well-being.

12. Posted by Joe, March 6th, 2010 at 3:40 am

Hi John,

First of all, thanks a lot for creating this site. Excellent and long overdue.

I have been fighting depression for over a year now, always taking three steps forward and two steps back. It is a slow and exhausting process and I have a long way to go.

As far as this subject is concerned, it is probably the most difficult one depression confronts you with. I have a wife and two great kids whom I have been withdrawing from more and more over the course of this battle. On the one hand, for very selfish reasons. I need all my energy and space to focus on changing myself and healing. On the other hand, I recognize I am not with them even if I am in the same room, which causes a lot of pain for them. Also, my behavior is unpredictable. Personally, I have made the decision to live in a separate apartment for three months and be with my family three to four days a week in order to give myself space to find my path, as well as to give my family space and some relief from me, so they can have some relief.

I am sure there is no right or wrong way. The only thing I am certain of is that everybody in my family is impacted hugely by something that is intrinsically my problem.

Cheers,

Joe

PS: I am from Holland, so please excuse the mediocre English…

13. Posted by john, March 8th, 2010 at 12:35 am

Hi, Joe -

I’m sorry to hear about your depression and the way it has been separating you from your family. The new apartment may be helpful as you say, but I hope you’re also working with a therapist to help with this difficult problem. I found that my wife and I needed to deal with the impact of my depression by working with a counselor. My wife had to go through long painful periods, but she kept talking to me and reminding me of the big picture of family life. Actually removing myself for a time wouldn’t have worked well in my case. But each of us finds a different way through.

My best to you – and thank you for your kind comment.

John

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